Why is Linux so hard ?
Considering great advancements have been made in linux installs, why is it so hard when it goes wrong.
My ubuntu attempt failed miserably, I admit I’m trying to install it on an old old machine, but if it boots into ubuntu, which is full blown linux from CD why does it fail miserably to install.
Were I not familiar with windows and linux and partitions I would have a dead machine by now, had I been a normal user trying this I would be stuck. Having tried googling problems all I find are forums filled with fanboys slaggin off each others distro. The level of support I have found in the community for linux is abysmal compared to windows. At least MS has support.microsoft, ubuntu’s equiv was pitiful.
Now after clearing down the disks and doing a Suse install, which went great until reboot time, I find myself in the same old situation.
I’m confronted with a white screen. Completely blank. The forums are of no use whatsoever, again. If I were a normal user then again I have a dead box with nowhere to turn because I didn’t buy this thing. The linux boys would have you believe that linux is a great alternative for everyone to windows, but it aint, its a long long way from being an end user product. It’s great for techies like me with a bit of knowledge but not for the rest of the world.
In case your wondering how I fixed the white screen. Here’s how.
Its a window manager problem. It’s trying to display at a resolution or color depth or sync rate not compatible with your monitor.
First you need to get to a normal Terminal Window, this can be done by pressing ctrl-alt 1 or 2 and will switch from the white screen to a text login. Login using “root” as the user and the password you gave during the install.
I tried running a program called Sax2 but as the window manager was already running it said could not open device.
So I ran “mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old”
Then “cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install /etc/X11/xorg.conf”
Switched back to the window manager screen with Ctrl-Alt-F8 and hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace twice, this kills the windows manager and restarts it in the nastiest way possible.
But hey presto it worked, it started in a low-res mode. Then I could use the interface and programs to set it up properly.
If you are thinking of having a go on linux, do it on an old machine so you can at least do stuff whilst the linux machine is dead. Buy a book complete with Distro, it wil help you no end in trying to fix your problems, I relied on an old RHat7 book I had to gain the knowledge, its transferable knowledge for most of it.
Give it a go but tread lightly.
I have similar problems when I try to install Windows in a new computer without drivers and documentation.
I spent the weekend trying to install xubuntu, the lightweight version. That failed to when scanning the disks. Its just pants.
Really JON? Windows install typically requires absolutely nothing of the user. I haven’t had a Windows installation fail since Windows 95. Since then, I’d say that I’ve had about 2 successfull physical Linux installations (out of many) and about 8 – 10 failed Virtual installations of Ubuntu. I have tried virtual Ubuntu with VmWare and virtual PC using multiple versions of Ubuntu and Virtual PC and it has never worked. I have never had a problem creating a virtual Windows installation with either Virtual PC/Server or VMWare…. and you want to talk about driver issues with Windows??????? Linux distros have improved greatly since the times of me banging my head (not literally)on my PC just trying to get Linux to recognize a frigging mouse or modem or video card… or just about anything! This poster is absolutely right that although it has come a long way, they haven’t come close to the rich UI, simplicity or ease of administration of Windows.
You’re right!
I tried Ubuntu and wow even the simplest things were extremely difficult to do! I don’t like having to read 4 pages on some forum to try and find help to fix the sound on my system. Linux is SO not user friendly. I upgraded to Fedora 11-better than Ubuntu but still hard to do anything. That and the media players suck and crash all the time. Also I have a new graphics card that I can’t even use now. SO AVOID LINUX like the plague!
I’m running back to Windows. ha!